Indy 1-3 in HD?

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tocksic

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According to the website of the german Sky-network, they are going to air the Indy triology next month - in HD! Anyone heard something new of upcoming BluRays? :confused:
 
Rhys135

Rhys135

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My local Currys (An Electrical store) was showing Last Crusade in HD on one of their display models a few weeks ago. It looked amazing. I hung around for 15 minutes or so before being ushered out. Returned there the other day with some Maltesers but they were showing some Meryl Streep film instead (n)
 
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Laserschwert

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Here are some caps of the Sky-broadcast:

Raiders:
http://s6.directupload.net/images/091007/k5snfd2g.png
http://s2.directupload.net/images/091007/r2ldsalb.png

Temple:
http://s3.directupload.net/images/091008/osn73r9a.png
http://s8.directupload.net/images/091008/wk8pyt45.png

Crusade:
http://s1.directupload.net/images/091009/vp5jm52n.png
http://s3.directupload.net/images/091009/t5b4zar4.png

They all look somewhat filtered to me (the Crusade title screen is obviously an upscale from the SD-master... I guess there simply wasn't a German HD-master for Crusade), but the biggest problem (which probably only people from a few countries can comprehend) is the fact that "Raiders" got a complete German re-dub, which is a sacrilege! The German dub from 1981 is a huge part of the nostalgia around this movie, and although Indy and Marcus (sadly only those two) got the same voice actors from back then, they both sound about 30 years older now! Plus, all the other voice actors have been replaced. It' terrible! So, why did they do this? Because they wanted (or were pushed by Lucasfilm) to show the movies in 5.1 sound.

It's been a big point of criticism when the DVDs came out that the German tracks of all three movies were only in 2.0 surround, which sounded somewhat worse than the English 5.1 tracks. It was known that at least for Temple and Crusade the German 6-track magnet tapes from the film print did still exist, so 5.1 tracks could've been mixed out of those. So that DVD-release left a somewhat stale taste in German buyers' mouths. It looks like now they've gone all the way, because SkyHD showed film 2 and 3 in excellent new 5.1 mixes. Sadly it looks like there were no sources to make a 5.1 mix for Raiders as well, and so they re-dubbed it. I PRAY that they show enough decency to at least include the original dub (which now I don't care that it's "only" 2.0) on the Blu-Ray release... it'd be a nightmare if I have to watch the HD-version with that mediocre re-dub.
 
mattzilla2010

mattzilla2010

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Hey, didn't the SciFi channel (in the U.S.) show Raiders in HD a while back? And it had a redone FX shot of the car going over the cliff in the chase scene...
 
Stoo

Stoo

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Hey, matzilla. Yes, you're right about the new shot but it was on the USA channel. (Maybe Sci-Fi showed it, too. I don't know. Does it have an HD channel?). I *think* the first time it was shown in HD was on a UPN (United Paramount Network) channel c.2006.
 
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ResidentAlien

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Laserschwert said:
Here are some caps of the Sky-broadcast:

Raiders:
http://s6.directupload.net/images/091007/k5snfd2g.png
http://s2.directupload.net/images/091007/r2ldsalb.png

Temple:
http://s3.directupload.net/images/091008/osn73r9a.png
http://s8.directupload.net/images/091008/wk8pyt45.png

Crusade:
http://s1.directupload.net/images/091009/vp5jm52n.png
http://s3.directupload.net/images/091009/t5b4zar4.png

They all look somewhat filtered to me (the Crusade title screen is obviously an upscale from the SD-master... I guess there simply wasn't a German HD-master for Crusade), but the biggest problem (which probably only people from a few countries can comprehend) is the fact that "Raiders" got a complete German re-dub, which is a sacrilege! The German dub from 1981 is a huge part of the nostalgia around this movie, and although Indy and Marcus (sadly only those two) got the same voice actors from back then, they both sound about 30 years older now! Plus, all the other voice actors have been replaced. It' terrible! So, why did they do this? Because they wanted (or were pushed by Lucasfilm) to show the movies in 5.1 sound.

It's been a big point of criticism when the DVDs came out that the German tracks of all three movies were only in 2.0 surround, which sounded somewhat worse than the English 5.1 tracks. It was known that at least for Temple and Crusade the German 6-track magnet tapes from the film print did still exist, so 5.1 tracks could've been mixed out of those. So that DVD-release left a somewhat stale taste in German buyers' mouths. It looks like now they've gone all the way, because SkyHD showed film 2 and 3 in excellent new 5.1 mixes. Sadly it looks like there were no sources to make a 5.1 mix for Raiders as well, and so they re-dubbed it. I PRAY that they show enough decency to at least include the original dub (which now I don't care that it's "only" 2.0) on the Blu-Ray release... it'd be a nightmare if I have to watch the HD-version with that mediocre re-dub.
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Dear god, those are atrocious! The DNR and EE bandits have struck again. There is nothing remotely film-like in those stills. Ugh.... awwwwwwwwful. :(
 
emtiem

emtiem

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I can't see any EE artefacts on those at all. Well, maybe on the soldiers' caps in the Well of Souls shot, but that's it. They're certainly not ruined. I'm not bothered much by grain so that doesn't worry me. There's certainly still grain there, though.
 
Meerkat

Meerkat

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I...honestly don't know what the difference between regular and high definition is. (I don't think I'll ever need it, though.)
 
ROB98374

ROB98374

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Meerkat said:
I...honestly don't know what the difference between regular and high definition is. (I don't think I'll ever need it, though.)
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If you have a small TV, you probably wouldn't notice the difference. If you have a big TV (mine is 82") then you can really tell.
 
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ResidentAlien

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emtiem said:
I can't see any EE artefacts on those at all. Well, maybe on the soldiers' caps in the Well of Souls shot, but that's it. They're certainly not ruined. I'm not bothered much by grain so that doesn't worry me. There's certainly still grain there, though.
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You're blind then.


The close-up of Indy from Raiders really clearly exhibits an insane amount of DNR. Grain? Ha. Indy looks like a wax figure in a house of horrors.
 
emtiem

emtiem

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ResidentAlien said:
You're blind then.
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Why are there so many aggressive and rude wankers on this site? Why can no-one be civil?

Where is this bloody EE you're so hugely upset about?!
 
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ResidentAlien

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emtiem said:
Why are there so many aggressive and rude wankers on this site? Why can no-one be civil?

Where is this bloody EE you're so hugely upset about?!
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So hugely? I think I more attacked the DNR than the EE.



Why are there so many thin-skinned wankers on this site?
 
emtiem

emtiem

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Stoo said:
Hey, matzilla. Yes, you're right about the new shot but it was on the USA channel. (Maybe Sci-Fi showed it, too. I don't know. Does it have an HD channel?). I *think* the first time it was shown in HD was on a UPN (United Paramount Network) channel c.2006.
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Cheeky question, but I've been trying to get hold of this for ages: I don't suppose if anyone knows if there's a version available to download anywhere, is there? I want HD Raiders! :)
I'll happily buy it if you want to release it, Lucasfilm! :)
 
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Indy Brazil

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Laserschwert said:
They all look somewhat filtered to me (the Crusade title screen is obviously an upscale from the SD-master... I guess there simply wasn't a German HD-master for Crusade), but the biggest problem (which probably only people from a few countries can comprehend) is the fact that "Raiders" got a complete German re-dub, which is a sacrilege! The German dub from 1981 is a huge part of the nostalgia around this movie, and although Indy and Marcus (sadly only those two) got the same voice actors from back then, they both sound about 30 years older now! Plus, all the other voice actors have been replaced. It' terrible! So, why did they do this? Because they wanted (or were pushed by Lucasfilm) to show the movies in 5.1 sound.
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The same hapened here in Brazil. Recently the movies were re-dub by different voice actors. (n)
I think it is a global movement for the release of the Blu-Rays soon.
 
indyclone25

indyclone25

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nah still no news , something tells me we won't see them released this year, maybe next year for the 30 th anniversary of raiders
 
emtiem

emtiem

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I downloaded the Raiders HD broadcast a few weeks: it's not full HD but certainly quite nice.

Rather funny how edited the US broadcast is. I was amazed when Marion, outside the burning bar, said "I'm your new damned partner!". 'New'?! :D
 
Stoo

Stoo

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Nice discovery, MTM! (You can't say "God damned" on major US networks.) Besides this and the redone cliff shot, did you notice anything else?
 
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