Indiana Jones and the Culture War

[thezod23]

Man, isn't it brutal out there watching Indy 5 get dragged around in the middle of the terrible fandom culture war?

How many of you are seriously worried, as I am, that this could at the very least put a damper on the film critically and especially financially through no fault of its own?

In the film, Indy is dealing with the "time's they are a' changing." In real life too.

 

[Forbidden Eye]

I’ve been worried about this in some form or another for five years now. Honestly I’ve rather gotten immune to much of the click-bate, gossip, negativity etc.

I’ve been one of Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull’s biggest defenders for 14 years. If I can handle all the backlash that entailed, I can handle this. Let’s just appreciate the moment that we’re FINALLY getting an Indiana Jones 5, it’s been filmed and it’s getting released!

To 2023: the year I we finally get Indy 5 and the year I stopped using social media in favor of enjoyed the pleasure of the real world(hopefully).

 

[emtiem]

Because Indy is an old heritage character, and the people who fall for this stuff are in their 30s/40s/50s etc. the YouTube vultures see their target to try and incense people in order to get clicks and cash. It’s so tiresomely predictable.

One of the Bond producers said that he thought the initial (totally fabricated) bad press about Daniel Craig actually did cost Casino Royale at the box office, even though it was still a massive hit. I kind of wonder if Lucasfilm shouldn’t be fighting back a bit. I know Mr Mangold has, and all power to him.

 

[whipandfedora]

I’ve been one of Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull’s biggest defenders for 14 years. If I can handle all the backlash that entailed, I can handle this. Let’s just appreciate the moment that we’re FINALLY getting an Indiana Jones 5, it’s been filmed and it’s getting released!

Indeed. Let’s savour the moment, because this is it.

 

[Lance Quazar]

Man, isn't it brutal out there watching Indy 5 get dragged around in the middle of the terrible fandom culture war?

It is?

 

[Girl_From_Mars]

What is this about?

 

[Finn]

What is this about?

Probably the same stuff rumor cesspool is full of.

 

[The Lone Raider]

Because Indy is an old heritage character, and the people who fall for this stuff are in their 30s/40s/50s etc. the YouTube vultures see their target to try and incense people in order to get clicks and cash. It’s so tiresomely predictable.

One of the Bond producers said that he thought the initial (totally fabricated) bad press about Daniel Craig actually did cost Casino Royale at the box office, even though it was still a massive hit. I kind of wonder if Lucasfilm shouldn’t be fighting back a bit. I know Mr Mangold has, and all power to him.

Well for whatever it's worth, I'm in my twenties, and I have always felt that Indy was an underrated and largely forgotten character in the eyes of my peers. This series has always lived in the shadows of other franchises, Star Wars especially since both are George Lucas' brainchildren, and I have just had to learn to accept that nobody around me in the real world is going to care to the extent that I do about these films (even moreso than my parents). As far as I'm concerned, this movie is for people like us, because for everyone else, it'll always be Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Transformers, Star Wars, John Wick and the Marvel Jokes-In-Every-Five-Sentences-of-Dialogue Cinematic Universe. Or sports and politics. Everybody around me really seems to prefer talking sports and politics.

 

[thezod23]

Probably the same stuff rumor cesspool is full of.

Yeah, pretty much. But, maybe just a place to lament about it more generally.

 

[BlueCoronado]

Some people just need to be negative about positive things. It's TRUE when they say you cant please everyone

 

[whipandfedora]

I just want the character to have a fitting send off and not die. That’s about it. I’m cool about the stuff I already know about. The trailer itself looks great and I can’t stop watching.

 

[StockdeFerry]

I'm very surprised with how many new YouTube videos are made every day criticising negatively the film. They share more or less the same titles: "are the rumours true?!“," Indy 5 goes WOKE"...

 

[metalinvader]

I'm very surprised with how many new YouTube videos are made every day criticising negatively the film. They share more or less the same titles: "are the rumours true?!“," Indy 5 goes WOKE"...

They did the same with every Star Wars film and most Marvel movies,Look at the stupid,Misogynistic crap they said about Captain Marvel and Brie Larson.Absolute garbage. It's a lot like Q anon.. Purposely misinforming people for clicks...

 

[metalinvader]

Meanwhile, The Junkman,Who loves to make fun of Doomcock and his ilk,is calling these asshats out and is putting up a good amount of money if they can prove that the fabled test screening actually happened..

Of course he knows his money is safe . But it's always fun seeing these idiots getting called out.

 

[Billy Ray]

I love me some Junkman!

 

[Indyfan1993]

Lol you know it's funny, a few weeks ago I stated that I guaranteed Tyrone Magnus would mention the "rumors" during his trailer reaction and sure enough that's exactly what he did. These people are morons.

 

[Indy Jones]

Geek culture naturally skews very cynical, so I think that's a large part why so many are willing to believe the BS--because it makes them feel smarter and superior to be critical as opposed to accepting.

 

[FordFan]

At the end of the day, it's people who are passionate about Indiana Jones. We only get one more film out of this franchise, with Harrison, and they want it to count. I can't fault them for that. Especially after what we've seen happen with Star Wars and James Bond.

You also have to think in terms of the long-term narrative. I'm more comforted by talk of a troubled production and "six different endings were shot!" Because expectations can easily be shattered here and the movie has more than enough runway to blow people away. As opposed to... everyone crowing about how f'ing amazing this movie is going to be for a year+, and then it underwhelms.

 

[Moedred]

I've been saving these.

Pro:

Celebrating Indiana Jones 40 Years After Raiders of the Lost Ark: How George Lucas and Steven Spielberg created an icon of American exceptionalism

Indiana Jones 5 and the Temple of Relativism: Will the 2023 film reflect the faith seeking understanding element of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, or the drab rationalism of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

Indiana Jones Star Says it is Unfair to Label Temple of Doom as Racist: Ke Huy Quan shot to fame playing Short Round in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and says he has nothing negative to say about it

Con:

In Stranger Things Season 4 Hopper needs to leave his Christian-Reaganite Indy Jones hat Behind

The Enduring Myths of Raiders of the Lost Ark: Forty years later, archaeologists look back at what the first Indiana Jones movie got wrong about their profession

Decolonizing anthropology: I’m not Indiana Jones, and I don’t want to be

It Does Not Belong in a Museum: Indiana Jones’ Colonizer Legacy

 

[ChilledMonkeyBrain]

Lol you know it's funny, a few weeks ago I stated that I guaranteed Tyrone Magnus would mention the "rumors" during his trailer reaction and sure enough that's exactly what he did. These people are morons.

Totally agree, morons is a perfect word for these guys, I started watching some ‘’reactions’’ on youtube but I just gave up when a lot of them started with the bs-rumors and they became kinda negative… I decided not to let these asshats (another perfect word for them) ruin my exitement for the movie Is it just me or do some of these reaction-videos not seem entirely genuine? Almost like they’ve already seen the trailer at least once before their reaction and adjust their ‘’performance’’ based on these rumors about the film?